Maggie Cats: Well, hello there, m'lady! So any initial
thoughts on Downton's Season 5 premiere?
Arsenic Pie: Just all kinds of insane.
Maggie Cats: It was certainly lightning quick in terms of
characters moving around and plots being set up.
Arsenic Pie: I like how it started two years after the
end of the last season, but none of the plots had changed. I felt
like Thomas was still trying to get info, and Lord Gillingham was
still chasing after Mary, even though two years had already passed.
Maggie
Cats: Well,
Downton has pretty much recycled the same plots over and over since
season 1. And yet, we still love it. How many times have we heard,
"Times, they are a-changing." And yet Lord Grantham is
still as useless and nobody just tells him to get a job.
Arsenic
Pie: I
really don't get why Thomas is still plotting. Is he still plotting
to get rid of Bates? Because I feel that ship has sailed.
Maggie Cats: It's very sad
how one note he has become. I think EVERY scene he had involved him
at some point badgering Baxter. I don't get it. It was the biggest
flaw in an otherwise pretty enjoyable episode. Why does he even care
anymore?
Arsenic
Pie: I
know, right! Isn't there something else they can do with Thomas? If
I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: If Thomas got laid
once in a while he wouldn't be such a dick. Also,
why is everyone in love with Mary all the time?
Maggie Cats: Again, see
season 1. Also. Asking Mary to sleep with you. EVERYONE WHO SLEEPS
WITH MARY DIES. Don't do it, Lord What's His Name.
Arsenic Pie: I KNOW!
Maggie Cats: Her vagina =
death.
Arsenic Pie: I've been
warning Lord Gillingham about this but he doesn't seem to be able to
hear me through the TV. Also,
I liked the other guy better, honestly. Well Lord Gillingham asked
her to be his booty call in the season premiere so we'll see how long
he lives after that.
Maggie Cats: The other guy,
Charles Blake, was cuter; Lord G-Spot's teeth make me squirm.
Arsenic Pie: Charles Blake
is way cuter. Also Lord G hires rapey valets. I think we're firmly
anti-Lord G.
Maggie Cats: There is
that.
So...what exactly is making this a difficult choice for you, Lady Mary?
Arsenic Pie: There is that.
And knowing how repetitive this show is, he's likely to do it again.
And then Bates will shove him in front of bus. And so on ad nauseum.
Maggie
Cats: You
know, as much as I love Downton, I feel like I enjoy it more when I
DON'T talk about it like this. Because I end up deconstructing it and
realizing all the flaws. All the plots are the same, there is almost
no real character growth (Lord Grantham is still an idiot, Edith is a
sad sack, Cora is dumb as a rock...), and if I don't think about
it....then I don't realize it. At
this point, I was kind of hoping Edith would end up burning it to the
ground. At least that would be something new.
Arsenic Pie: But Thomas got
in the way.
Maggie Cats: But I will
point out that was just about the only time I can remember Lord
Grantham being very useful; I will admit he sprang into action and
took charge when everyone else was just sitting on their asses.
Thomas bumbles into heroism
a lot.
Arsenic Pie: I just think
the show is funny. You can't take it seriously as a drama because it
makes no damn sense. But on
a positive note. I like Tom's new girlfriend, the schoolmarm. She is
adorbz.
Maggie Cats: OMG, she is
insane. And while I do like her as a character, she is really fucking
rude.
Arsenic Pie: But you know
that's going to end badly.
Maggie Cats: Just because
I agree with her doesn't mean it's ok to openly insult people at
their dinner table. Oh, god
yes. AND I LOVE IT.
Arsenic Pie: There's
no way they're going to get together. THEY ARE SO DOOMED.
"Tom's going to teach me a lesson about how my attitude toward 1%ers actually makes ME the snob, and we've done this plot before, so don't mind me. Hey! Are those canapes? I LOVE canapes!"
Maggie Cats: I am sure she
will get pushed in front of a bus. Driven by the proletariat.
Arsenic Pie: I bet
that's what happened to Gregson. I bet the Nazis pushed him in
front of the Hitler bus. Like
who goes to Germany in the 1920s? Nobody. It's just a bad idea.
Maggie Cats: Do you
think he is dead? Or will make a reappearance? I wouldn't past Julian
Fellowes to have kept it open in case he has some divine inspiration
reason to bring him back.
Arsenic Pie: Oh, I am
sure he will reappear.
Maggie Cats: Maybe he joined SHIELD? Oh, wait that's
the 1940s. My bad.
Arsenic
Pie: Maybe
he went TO THE FUTURE and joined SHIELD. I am totally waiting for him
to reappear. Like
reappear and be a Nazi. He's be like, "No, Edith. I'm totally a
fascist now. And it's fucking sweet." I really don't know why we
aren't writing for this show.
Maggie Cats: Ooooh,
that is totally what is going to happen. "Can I have that German
primer I left here? It had microfiche in it with secrets that I
really need."
Arsenic Pie: Yes! Yes!
Maggie Cats: We don't
write for the show because we are too good.
Arsenic Pie: Like
really he joined them in secret and is passing secrets and he
disappeared because he's a spy.
Maggie Cats: Let's talk
some more about the Downstairs folk. Daisy wants to learn numbers,
Jimmy slept with Caroline Bingley...
Arsenic
Pie: Then
Edith can be like, "Um. I burned it. But look! I made you a
kid!" JIMMY TOTALLY SLEPT WITH CAROLINE BINGLEY WHO
HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL IN THE PAST 100 YEARS.
"Yes! Barged in on us in the midst of le grande delicto to say the house was on fire! The impudence!"
Maggie Cats: Also:
Duckface from Four Weddings and a Funeral. Watching this show I
sometimes feel like a British IMDB. "Oh, it's THAT guy!"
"A little lower, Jimmy! No, lower! No, not to the right. To the left. The left!"
Arsenic
Pie: Yes,
Duckface was there, too. I like Daisy. I never warmed to Ivy and I'm
glad she's gone.So is Alfred going to realize that Daisy is sweet and
true? I
really do think Thomas needs to get laid.
Maggie Cats: On one
hand, it's great to have a gay character. There are amazing stories
to tell about homosexuals in this era. On the other, Julian Fellowes
has no interest in telling those stories, and since Thomas is gay and
can't date any of the downstairs ladies, it seems there are no other
plots for him. This bothers me.
Arsenic
Pie: Right.
It's one thing to be like "Look! We're progressive with this gay
character" but he never has a relationship and he's always being
an asshole. It's
not a positive portrayal in any way. Aren't there any hot farm lads
around for Thomas? Mary has some extra dudes. He could date one of
them. I really do like the other guy for Mary. He is way hotter.
Maggie Cats: I would
approve of that for sure.
Arsenic Pie: When was
the last time Thomas had a date?
Maggie Cats: Um, never?
And I say good for Daisy, and good for Mrs. Patmore for supporting
her. She's not dumb and I think Tom's teacher will start tutoring
her. Daisy clearly has a learning disability.
Arsenic Pie: I thought
the same thing. :( Poor Daisy. I thought she had dyslexia or
something. I thought maybe Tom's lady friend could teach her.
Maggie Cats: You and me
share a brain.
Arsenic Pie: Or maybe
the show is just that obvious. So, let's talk about Isobel. I like
how Violet is trying to get her lord friend to be interested in
someone else so Isobel can't raise her social position. We
wouldn't want Isobel to be ranked higher socially than Violet.
Maggie Cats: This
subplot fascinates me; beyond giving Maggie Smith more chances to be
hilarious, it's one of the few times we see Violet actually scared.
She is TERRIFIED of Isobel being ranked higher than her.
Arsenic Pie: AND IT IS
AWESOME I really do ship Dr. Clarkson and Isobel, but this plot is
good for a few laughs.
Maggie Cats: When
Isobel figures this out, she will probably marry that lord just to
have the win. Poor Dr. Clarkson. Also, how hilarious is that Violet's
butler is named Spratt. And is a total snob. Even SHE thinks he's a
snob.
Arsenic Pie: Spratt is the worst. I like how he won't serve
Dr. Clarkson because he's, you know, middle class.
Maggie Cats: I love it.
I would want some of that cake too. Except I would have said, "EXCUSE
ME, BUT I WANT SOME CAKE, YOU ASSHOLE."
Arsenic Pie: I'd just take the cake from him. I'd be like
GIVE ME THE WHOLE THING. And then I'd be like WHERE IS THE FROSTING.
Maggie Cats: I would
have tripped him too, and caught the cake like Edward Cullen in
Twilight.
Arsenic
Pie: There was no
frosting on that cake. I looked. If Edward Cullen shows up on Downton
Abbey I will die happy. Like as a vampire.
Maggie Cats: And
then come back as an undead. Edward should date Thomas. And they can
be weird and stalk each other.
HOT.
Arsenic
Pie: That
would be a match. Thomas would be totally into the sparkly boyfriend
thing. I bet Thomas reads Twilight.
Thomas
reads Twilight and
so does Ivy. Edith reads it sometimes but she realizes now that it
was a lie. I bet that's what Gregson's book was. It was a
German translation of Twilight
and
that's why she burned it. It just sucked that much.
Maggie
Cats: Thomas
writes Twilight
fanfic.
OMG. Thomas
writes Twilight
fanfic that becomes 50
Shades of Grey,
but with two dudes and set in the 1920s. Also:
HAHAHAHA
Arsenic Pie: HOLY SHIT
YES.
Look out, Evelyn Waugh!
Arsenic Pie: Aaaand we are officially off topic.
Maggie Cats: Perhaps
this is a good time for final thoughts.
Arsenic
Pie: Overall,
better than the second and third seasons. I watched all of last
season on Sunday and I liked it. So
I think the show has picked up some of the steam it lost. I think
Matthew was deadweight. I don't miss him at all.
Maggie Cats: I actually
agree, and I remember being really sad when he died. I thought it was
a good premiere and did everything a premiere should. And while I
enjoyed it, I was disappointed in the plot recycling and the lack of
movement in characters and relationships.
Arsenic
Pie: Yeah,
the season premiere was supposed to pick up two years after last
season but nothing had really changed.
It's
kind of unrealistic for a couple of the plotlines not to have moved
along any. I do like Rose and I like her plots. It's fun to watch the
whole debutante thing because they never did that with the other
girls.
Maggie Cats: Oh,
definitely agree. We didn't touch on Rose, but I will say that it's
surprising the show was able to add her to the cast and make her
actually interesting.
Arsenic Pie: I like
her. She's a good replacement for Sybil. I mostly just feel bad for
Tom.
Maggie Cats: Yeah, me
too. I hope he ends up leaving Downton and being happy somewhere
else. You know, because he is a real character.
Arsenic
Pie: I
think overall the plots need to move. I don't care at all if Bates
killed the valet. I think everyone agrees they don't care, so I hope
they just let it go. Tom does seem the most real of the upstairs cast. He and Rose are
actually the most sympathetic of the upstairs cast.
"These people are just insane."
Maggie Cats: Definitely
agree. Well, it sounds like there are both promising and
disappointing things about the season premiere. Let's hope the plots
get moving in the weeks to come!
Arsenic Pie: Let's
hope. I will continue to watch and laugh myself silly.
Maggie Cats: NOT
watching Downton would be the hard part. As Violet said, avoiding your
friends is the hardest thing. And
scene.
Lady Mary's (Second? Third?) Wedding Cake, by Molesley Cakes & Bakery, Ripon, Yorkshire, UK